Now when I point this out to others, people respond “Yes, the laws were bad. But those who broke the laws had to face the consequences of them, and so should those today.”

I just don’t get it. If the law is bad, the consequences and punishment is also bad. One can indeed decry unjust punishment for people working against unjust laws.

To say it another way, the problem is not the immigrants, the problem is us.

The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ’s new immigration laws. Arizona’s Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following statement in response to Sarver’s criticism of the new law:

“What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn’t be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns’ ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?”

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer

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Robert Witt to tony
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To Governor Brewer,

Robert Saver made an interesting comparison to his business and Arizona’s new immigration law.

To completely agree with him I would like some definitions defined.

‘hordes” – there have been 6 million illegals enter the USA since 2000, about 600000 a year or about .02 % of USA population.

– if that same horde,% wise, that would mean about 37 fans would be illegally entering the Suns Arena every night.

– with that horde, and the 17000 fans that cheer on their heroes every night, that would still leave about 763 seats empty every night. So the term horde , a troop or tribe of Asian nomads,may not be a good term to use,

But of course this is not a game. I assume the ushers and security personnel would have little problem with .02% of new fans.

But of course this is not a game.Yes their are those who drain the US economy, but most are like you and I,

-They want a better life for their children
– a chance, just a chance, for life to be a little better
– with the clothes on their back they came
– with a homemade 56 Chevy, they made into a boat, and crossed the Florida straight
– with a strong back and young age they left their parents to come to the home of the brave and the land of the ….

I wonder how many living in the US are original Americans? But we know what everyone, all since the Mayflower, have done to them.

I know the Governor what not exclude medical care to some that was injured or sick in his arena. Who would want to be sheltered in his arena anyway.

So the comparison stops with the horde but really continues with who will pay for those 37 illegals. A billion a year to Pakistan would be a good start. Or maybe not so many, over 1700, Lockhead F-35 fighters at 89 million a pop.

Saint Augustine always called the Catholic Church that, ‘Shining City on a Hill”, I always thought of the US the same way.

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of you teamming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Ok, maybe not a hill, a shining beacon to the golden door.

bob witt Go Irish

Amalia Avila never supported the war. But after her first son, Victor Gonzalez, told her he wanted to join the Marines, she felt a mixture of fear, concern and, finally, pride.
“This war makes no sense to me,” Avila said last week in her Watsonville home. “I’d ask him why he wanted to go, and he’d just say his brothers needed his help. … But when Victor did get into the Marines, when that day came, I was so proud of him.”

Avila paused to allow her tears. “It was a beautiful day.”

It was also one of the last days Avila saw her son. Gonzalez, 19, who was born in Salinas shortly after Avila immigrated from Mexico, served a little more than a month in Anbar province before he was killed by a roadside mortar explosion in October 2003.

The discord between Avila’s unsettled feelings toward the war and her son’s sacrifice reflects a growing paradox within the Latino community. A majority of Latinos believe the troops should come home as soon as possible, according to Pew Hispanic Center surveys, yet enlistment of Latinos has steadily risen in the past decade.

According to the Department of Defense, in 2004, the most recent year of confirmed data, Latinos made up 13 percent of new recruits. This is an all-time high, nearly twice the percentage of 10 years earlier. Latinos’ presence in the military still does not match their 17 percent share of the overall population ages 18 to 24. And African Americans continue to be overrepresented in the military, making up about 18 percent of active duty personnel but only 13 percent of the U.S. population. Nonetheless, the absolute number of Latinos entering the armed forces continues to grow.

And so it goes……………..